Why is racist behavior ok here?

"Wacko" (wacko--) 07/10/2015 at 09:21 • Filed to: None

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one thing that pisses me off about Jalopnik and yes even here on Oppo is that is that It seems to be OK to be racist Towards the French and French Canadians.

It’s not ok to make a stupid comment about blacks, gays, even bruce jenner.

But saying stupid things about french Canadians is ok? I for one have had enough. We have to be PC for everything except the french.

Gawker network, where selective racism rules!

Stay classy OPPO

SummerFun > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:25

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Is French a race? Not sure that this is racist. Also, I’d imagine most people here are ‘Muricans, and ‘Muricans hate the French.

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:26

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I think the rest of Canada still resents Quebec for

a) trying to separate.

b) trying to make the Feds and provinces bend over backwards for them at Meech Lake and Charlottetown.

Both of these are history by now, but past experiences shape opinions.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:26

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French and French Canadians are not races or a subcultures. They are nationalities or parts thereof. French, of course, are French. French Canadians, whether they like it or not, are Canadians. International shit-flinging-in-jest is a fact of life and also quite fun, just throw some back.

On the other hand, if the parties you didn’t specify are being serious, fuck that noise.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:26

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French people set quokkas on fire. The only reason needed, because what other heartless people could do such a thing.

Also, who the fuck terrorizes New Zealand?

(Tongue in cheek here, but halfway serious)

itschrome > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:27

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umm.. being french Canadian or even french is not a race.. you can’t be racists towards them unless your just hating on white people or black people.. I also suppose Asians could be french Canadian..

Damn wine drinking, sap sucking, moose fucking french Canadians, they can’t get anything right..

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 07/10/2015 at 09:30

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a) Trying to separate WHEN THEY HAVE SOOO MUCH MAPLE SYRUP. Otherwise, meh, they’de become the Greece of NA and be back within the month.

georgechristensen > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:30

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lol canucks

itschrome > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/10/2015 at 09:30

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wait.. they did what? I need more details!

Cherry_man1 > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:30

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Only thing to do now is this:

CalzoneGolem > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:31

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Well the Quebecois are basically the worst.

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 07/10/2015 at 09:31

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Like we'd let them back in. :p

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:32

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Why is “Racism” a thing? Are we not all human beings?

Yes?

Good, done, no more racism because it does not matter. It is only a tool of the powerful to muddle the minds of the non-powerful.

#illuminati confirmed

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 07/10/2015 at 09:32

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I would. I want my syrup dammit.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > georgechristensen 07/10/2015 at 09:33

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french canucks.

spanfucker retire bitch > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 07/10/2015 at 09:34

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This, all of this. That entire first paragraph is basically what I was going to write. Thanks for saving me the time.

Justin Hughes > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:34

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I, for one, welcome our poutine bearing overlords.

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 07/10/2015 at 09:35

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I could live without it. Whipped cream on waffles> maple syrup on waffles. Pancakes are still good with table syrup.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 07/10/2015 at 09:36

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Yes, but maple is better.

once you go amber gold you never go back

thebigbossyboss > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 07/10/2015 at 09:37

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A) I went swimming in Meech Lake yesterday. It was fun.

B) What you say has some truth to it, this is definitely possible. But it doesn’t create excuses for the behaviour on here. Either we have a welcoming community or we don’t. Given Wacko lives in the wild bushlands of Quebec (aka Rouyn Nouranda) it doesnt sound like he feels welcomed.

So, frustrated or not we need to decide wether we want to dial Quebec bashing back a bit or carry on as we have.

thebigbossyboss > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 07/10/2015 at 09:38

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Come to Lanark Ontario. Lanark has two industries: Logging, and Maple Syrup.

thebigbossyboss > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/10/2015 at 09:38

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What is a quokass? Why are you confusing “french people” for Quebeckers?

duurtlang > SummerFun 07/10/2015 at 09:39

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I always wondered why ‘Muricans, rather than Americans, hate the French so much. Do they resent their freedom, their laissez faire attitude, their disdain towards insecure hypermasculinity or their respect towards women/female qualities?

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > thebigbossyboss 07/10/2015 at 09:40

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Wacko > Justin Hughes 07/10/2015 at 09:41

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I read that as poutine wearing

Richtofen, Baron von Pickup > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:41

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I’d like to see everything be politically incorrect. French Canadians making jokes about blacks, Poles joking about the English, Japanese quipping over Mexico. We’re all different, we all have quirks, none of us are above a little lampooning or laughing at ourselves. Anyone who can’t laugh about a stereotype that actually does fit clearly has some insecurities to work out, because people should be able to take a lighthearted joke no matter their color, stature, gender, nationality, or creed.

EDIT: I’m a gun-toting, God-loving, pickup-driving Texan. Go ahead, laugh and ask me about oil fields and longhorn steers. :)

pauljones > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:43

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Nothing of what you are describing is actually racism. Race has nothing to do with country of affiliation. You can be discriminatory or deragotory to French Canadians, but you can’t really be racist against them unless you’re targeting a specific subset of French Canadians (i.e., French Canadians of Chinese descent or something like that).

As for the poking fun at the French... yep, we do it all the time. We also poke fun at Brits, Irish, Americans, Russians in particular, toss some Poland jokes in there, etc. It’s called a little good-natured ribbing. Nobody actually seriously hates the French, the Brits, the Irish, the Russians, or even Canadians. Hell, when it comes to the French in particular, there seems to be a lot of misconception about American feelings. We do not in the least bit dislike the French. We still haven’t forgotten what the French did for us as a nation; the United States of America would not exist without the French.

We just tease each other, and that’s just a fact of life. We laugh at ourselves and each other.

People who make comments about people of different races or different orientations aren’t making jokes for the sake of a little good-natured ribbing - they are making jokes out of an active sense of hatred due to their own imagined superiority, moral or otherwise.

If you can show me an example of an individual making truly hateful comments towards the French of French Canadians - the way that many hateful comments are made about blacks, gays, and transgendered people - I will absolutely step in, remove that comment, and ban that user.

But I don’t think that there have been very many truly hateful comments; I think you’re just perceiving a lot of ribbing of the French and French Canadians to the exclusion of all else. In terms of nationalities that I have seen most made fun of around here, it’s always been the Russians with the “Meanwhile, in Russia...” memes. But even those aren’t actually hateful - they’re just a little bit of teasing, just the same as Americans are teased about being fat, lazy, and ignorant.

It’s not actually serious or hateful - if it was, one of us would have stepped in.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > thebigbossyboss 07/10/2015 at 09:44

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This is a Quokka.

They are illegal to touch now, due to two French tourists who thought it would be funny to spray Axe on it and then light it on fire. They don’t even know how to use deodorant correctly(/s).

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 07/10/2015 at 09:45

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Fair enough. I know a guy who hand makes dark amber syrup. It's crazy expensive, but it's also very good.

ly2v8-Brian > duurtlang 07/10/2015 at 09:46

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None of that. It’s just southerners that were pissy that the French didn't help us in Iraq. That's pretty much it.

bob and john > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:46

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trust me, you dont want to wear poutine

thebigbossyboss > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:46

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One time I went to get some poutine here in Ottawa with a woman I know whom was drunk.

She tripped down the stairs and spilt her poutine all over her dress.She was then wearing poutine.

I have witnessed what you describe. Fun fact: Before I even knew one of my coworkers was dating her, I told him this story. I then came back to a note on my desk from the woman. “I hear you’re telling stories about me”

Now those two are married!!!

This is my story about wearing poutine.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/10/2015 at 09:47

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I have never heard of this thing but now I need more Quokka in my life.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:47

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I’m a french canadian and I’m not sure I’m seeing this negativity you speak of. I’ve seen lots of Canadian jokes from americans but it’s all in good fun.

I’ve never felt out of place I don’t know maybe I have thick skin or something but I can’t say I’ve seen anything hugely inappropriate.

Justin Hughes > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:47

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FOOD FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fhrblig > duurtlang 07/10/2015 at 09:48

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Here’s the thing, I think we joke about it a lot but I don’t think I’ve ever actually met someone that has genuine hatred for them. I totally appreciate their help during the Revolutionary war.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > itschrome 07/10/2015 at 09:48

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1. Set one of these on fire and put it on Youtube.

2. A long time ago, the French bombed a NZ ship, initially denied it, then eventually started an embargo on NZ.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Richtofen, Baron von Pickup 07/10/2015 at 09:49

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Frankly I hve no trouble taking barbs as long as I’m allowed to throw a few back :)

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:49

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That’s not racism.

Now stop acting like a Canadian

thebigbossyboss > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 07/10/2015 at 09:50

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I was in your neighbourhood recently. Edmundston, St Mathieu, Florenceville-Bristol and all that. I will post about it soon.

ly2v8-Brian > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:50

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Well, it's ok because they are white. At least that's the popular narrative that the social Marxists love ramming down our throats. Also do you have a link to what fired you up?

Patrick Nichols > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:52

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As others have mentioned, these are not races, but to add on to that they have not provided us with very good examples. Zinadine Zidane was at one point the most famous Frenchman over here. As far as french canadians in the northeast, the hatred mostly stems from the second greatest rivalry in all of NA sports (bruins/habs) and the fact that they invade our beaches doing 10 under the speed limit every summer, refusing to learn english.

Also, look around. The corrupt Italian government gets made fun of all the time. The Germans get made fun of for making things too complicated and being too serious. Russians get made fun of for the person they allegedly “elected.” Americans get made fun of for things that happen mostly in Florida and so much more. South America gets the short end of the stick for being mostly underdeveloped. The middle east is seen as hell because of a more conservative religion, the terrorists that are mostly in the minority, labor laws, etc. Chinese get portrayed as counterfeiting communists. I could go on forever.

If you ask, me the French and Quebecois get off easy as people think they’re mostly just unfriendly and dive during sports. I’m not saying that all of them are, because they aren’t, but every area has its stereotypes.

Things are different for blacks and the LGBT community because racial and sexuality/gender tensions are high, mostly because they have been oppressed for a good portion of history and there are big issues coming to the front of society.

Until the French have their civil rights taken away, the French aren’t being treated any differently than anyone else.

pauljones > duurtlang 07/10/2015 at 09:52

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For the most part, we actually don’t hate the French in the least. Sure, there are a handful of right-wing nutbags here and there that won’t eat French Fries, but then, there are still pockets of neo-Nazis in France. France doesn’t lay claim to their nutbags, and we don’t lay claim to ours. Otherwise, as a rule, we actually have a great deal of respect for the French. We haven’t forgotten that we would not be a nation without French intervention, even if that intervention was less about idealistic support and more about simply screwing the British in any way they could.

Cé hé sin > Justin Hughes 07/10/2015 at 09:52

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Beware Poutine

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 07/10/2015 at 09:53

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I agree. If you choose to separate make sure you are prepared for it because it will be for good there is no turning back.

I don’t think they realise the complexity. They will need their own currency,oil,army,ect. Which maple syrup is great and all but I don’t think it is enough to back up their currency.

1 canadian dollar will end up being worth about 5 quebecois dollars.

It seems they want to separate, keep all the benefits of Canada but go by their own rules and I’m sorry to say it just doesn’t work like that.

Richtofen, Baron von Pickup > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 07/10/2015 at 09:53

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Which is completely reasonable. I love Gran Torino for the amount of barbs that get thrown around about everyone.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > ly2v8-Brian 07/10/2015 at 09:53

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Actually it goes back to the Civil War. The French was supposed to send aide or the like, but they did not.

CalzoneGolem > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 07/10/2015 at 09:53

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Hey, we’ve got maple trees in Maine!

thebigbossyboss > bob and john 07/10/2015 at 09:53

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See story below of girl who wore poutine and is now married to my friend haha.

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > pauljones 07/10/2015 at 09:53

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Today I hate the USA

But that’s purely because USA is playing against Haiti in the Gold Cup tonight.

Death to USA!

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:54

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I feel that can be a delicious fetish

thebigbossyboss > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/10/2015 at 09:54

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Are you sure they weren’t Floridians?

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 07/10/2015 at 09:55

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Yeah, they just didn't think separation through. Thankfully it didn't go through.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > thebigbossyboss 07/10/2015 at 09:56

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100%

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/21/quo…

pauljones > R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet 07/10/2015 at 09:56

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That actually reminds me of a story I heard when I went to the Holocaust Memorial in LA - a little old woman who was a survivor of the Holocaust was there telling her story of the war and her emigration to the United States after being freed from the camps. When she got to Ellis Island and had to fill out all the forms, one of the questions on the form asked what the applicant’s race was. She put “human” down as her answer, and was promptly interrogated by customs officials before finally being granted a visa.

It’s just interesting to think about the simple truth of her answer - there are many, many ethnicities, but there is truly only one race of people: humans.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:57

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Quoi? Et qu’est-ce qu’on appris à propos de gens francophones ici?

Exemples ou excuses.

thebigbossyboss > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/10/2015 at 09:57

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Ok. But those were actual france french. Canadians had nothing to do with this.

nermal > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:58

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Ugh, Canadians. With their beady little eyes and their flappy heads.

This kinda filth is ruining our children!

Saracen > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 09:58

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We’re not racist.

We’re frenchist.

pauljones > SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman 07/10/2015 at 09:58

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‘Murica, Fuck No!

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > pauljones 07/10/2015 at 09:58

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But Americans are fat,lazy and ignorant.

From you resident fat,lazy and ignorant french canadian. :-)

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > CalzoneGolem 07/10/2015 at 09:59

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You do. But they need to be Sugar Maples (you would have some of those as well) and Quebec has more than anywhere I’m aware of. In any case a massive percentage of the worlds Maple Syrup comes from Quebec.

R Saldana [|Oo|======|oO|] - BTC/ETH/LTC Prophet > pauljones 07/10/2015 at 09:59

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EXACTLY THIS!!

pauljones > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 07/10/2015 at 10:01

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Damn right we are!

YOU GET FREEDOM FRIES, AND YOU GET FREEDOM FRIES, AND YOU GET FREEDOM FRIES, EVERYBODY GETS FREEDOM FRIES!!!!

But only if someone can help me out of my chair.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > Saracen 07/10/2015 at 10:01

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Then you can’t go to Dover if there is ever a Clarkson government in the UK.

“Maybe we should introduce a law saying you’ve got to have onions in the boot of your car. Don’t announce it and fine every Frenchist who arrives in Dover without any.”

bob and john > thebigbossyboss 07/10/2015 at 10:02

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......
“goes and jumps in tub full of poutine*

CalzoneGolem > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 07/10/2015 at 10:02

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See you don’t need them.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > thebigbossyboss 07/10/2015 at 10:03

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Not quite in my stomping ground since I’m originally from south east N-B Moncton,Shediac,Miramichi area.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > thebigbossyboss 07/10/2015 at 10:04

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OP said French or French Canadians.

thebigbossyboss > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 07/10/2015 at 10:05

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I have never been to eastern new brunswick, only the highway 2 corridor. One may observe there is not a lot on highway 2 in between Fredericton and Moncton.

Converse > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 10:11

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That seems to fall under discrimination as French Canadian, gays, etc. are not races.

Somethings are seen as discrimination (or actually are discriminatory) when stereotypes are brought up and joked about. This falls more into the category known as offensive. I for one find stereotypes to be funny as there usually is a semblance of truth in them (I mean really, have you met a Canadian that won’t defend Tim Horton’s. I know you have, but you get the point.).

Because something bothers you or hits to close to home, does not make something discriminatory.It may be offensive, but not discriminating. It’s when people act on that thought and actively block that group of people or treat that group differently than others that it becomes discrimination.

ly2v8-Brian > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/10/2015 at 10:18

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If they were trying to aid the south they were likely stopped by the north.

For Sweden > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 10:23

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The only prejudice we allow around here is the eternal hatred of the Danes.

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > thebigbossyboss 07/10/2015 at 10:25

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Not much to see down there except maybe the Fundy national park and hopewell rocks.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > ly2v8-Brian 07/10/2015 at 10:28

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I think they rightfully decided to not piss off the north more than anything.

thebigbossyboss > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 07/10/2015 at 10:33

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I was on my way to PEI. I had a good time Northern NB though, I went to Hartland and the mccain factory museum haha.

pauljones > thebigbossyboss 07/10/2015 at 10:35

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So, wearing poutine = getting laid.

I CAN DO THIS ALL DAY LONG!!!!!!

mcseanerson > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 10:35

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Wait, we can be racist now? Quick, I got one. Why do Scotts wear Kilts?

ptak appreciates old racecars > For Sweden 07/10/2015 at 10:38

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Oh fuck the Danes. With their pastries and LEGO bricks, two horrible things no one wants.

pauljones > For Sweden 07/10/2015 at 10:43

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They gave us LEGOs and Nina Agdal. At this point, I’m officially totally cool with the Danish.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 10:53

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maybe it’s prejudice not racism.

Datsun73 > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 10:54

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If you could leave our American Mr. Ron Burgandy out of this, that’d be great. Thanks, Peppy Le Pew.

Wacko > nermal 07/10/2015 at 10:58

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and our square tires

thebigbossyboss > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 07/10/2015 at 11:01

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Most the rest comes from eastern ontario....being right beside quebec.

Wacko > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 07/10/2015 at 11:02

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no we only burn down our Parliament buildings .

and I thought quokkas are made up, then I saw your link

Steve Zissou > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 11:05

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Ugh. The French. Always ripping up my trash bags so I have to lug those huge steel trash cans out to the curb. Wearing their little burglar masks. They try to get you to like the French when you’re young with that Ranger Rick guy, but don’t let them fool you. The French aren’t cute or caring. They’re just scavenger rats, but bigger and with furry striped tails. Get out of my trash Frenchie!

ceanderson920 > duurtlang 07/10/2015 at 11:06

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I kinda like the french, cognac and champagne are good, crepes are also very good.

SnapUndersteer, Italian Spiderman > ptak appreciates old racecars 07/10/2015 at 11:45

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What about Tom “Mr LeMans” Kristensen???

Wacko > Steve Zissou 07/10/2015 at 11:46

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wait a second, is that why all my plastic bags from walmart have holes in them, (i use them for kitty litter pick-up)

P.s i don’t get the raccoon connection, since the animal that the french are associated to is the frog?

that and my favorite french skunk pepe lepew

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > CalzoneGolem 07/10/2015 at 12:13

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If we cut the rest of the world off, we could make do... yeah, you know what, lets do that.

CalzoneGolem > Richtofen, Baron von Pickup 07/10/2015 at 12:15

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You ain’t got no horns boy!

Richtofen, Baron von Pickup > CalzoneGolem 07/10/2015 at 12:18

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No, indeed I do not. The herd of deer is sufficient.

RallyWrench > For Sweden 07/10/2015 at 12:21

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Danish racing drivers get a pass.

CalzoneGolem > Richtofen, Baron von Pickup 07/10/2015 at 12:25

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCxc2h…

CB > Wacko 07/10/2015 at 12:26

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I know I’ve made some anti-Quebec jokes and jokes at Quebec’s expense, and I apologize for that. I won’t do it again.

CB > For Sweden 07/10/2015 at 12:28

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Am I allowed to hate Norway? I really want to sink Norway into the sea for no particular reason.

Richtofen, Baron von Pickup > CalzoneGolem 07/10/2015 at 12:29

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Colonel Claypooooool! I can only remember lyrics from My Name is Mud. “Where you goin’, city boy?”

Steve in Manhattan > Luc - The Acadian Oppo 07/10/2015 at 12:30

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We are? Damn, I need some more cheese.

CalzoneGolem > Richtofen, Baron von Pickup 07/10/2015 at 12:34

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Steers and Queers

Steers and Queers where you come

From there’s just steers and queers

And you ain’t got no horns, boy

Luc - The Acadian Oppo > Steve in Manhattan 07/10/2015 at 12:37

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For Sweden > RallyWrench 07/10/2015 at 12:47

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Actually, they can’t pass